I spent much of my career working in sustainability and systems change while, at times, working in ways that weren’t particularly sustainable for me.
That contradiction has opened a much larger inquiry:
We can’t separate ourselves from the systems we’re trying to change.
In this conversation with my friend Mindy, we explore some of the questions underneath The Regenerative Edge—regenerative leadership, creating conditions for change, why awareness isn’t enough, and what becomes possible when we begin learning from our own lives, relationships, and the systems we’re part of.









